tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post5754534722662253592..comments2023-08-25T20:16:39.733+05:30Comments on Being Cynical: Dear Rana Ayyub, Do You Know A Word Called Introspection?Team Being Cynicalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05971979603726959527noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-10232286086821911632015-02-06T18:24:00.812+05:302015-02-06T18:24:00.812+05:30It wasn't "action has reaction" even...It wasn't "action has reaction" even though it wouldn't be completely wrong in a description of the riots.<br />What he said - "the chain of action and reaction must be broken"<br />If you are taking the high moral ground -<br />Stick to the facts else you come out as an apologist.AAM AADMInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-27228585758888435842015-01-30T11:51:36.554+05:302015-01-30T11:51:36.554+05:30I have seen people like you hardly talks about abo...I have seen people like you hardly talks about about Godhra train burning incident but they go berserk when one start talking about Post Godhra riots. After 12 years of grilling and that to in Congress Raj of 10 years Modi got clean chit. The action has reaction was told for the former MP from congress who was burnt alive. The Raj Dharm preaching was made because riots erupted in large scale for the first 2 days post Godhra and according to Vajpayee's observation Modi was seen as powerless to control it.As you know he was asked for help from bordering state for reinforcement but all the three congress ruled state gave him cold shoulder.Vikramnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-15235020440218180992015-01-18T15:00:49.513+05:302015-01-18T15:00:49.513+05:30Okay. What about "action has reaction" ...Okay. What about "action has reaction" by our the then honorable PM. and should I remind you who reminded who to follow "raj dharma" in 2002.<br /><br />I agree, to save 150 lives, it was a genuine reason to release the terrorists, though the situation could have been handled better before, maybe at Amritsar airport itself, or by other means. Anyway, release of terrorists is for everyone to see, while Rajiv Gandhi helping Anderson escape the country is just known to you and people like you. Don't give me example of some book where it is mentioned that Rajiv Gandhi or Arjun Singh helped him flee. Until proven guilty, all are innocent. We can also say we all know who was mastermind of 2002, who ordered encounters etc.<br /><br />Hello, if you don't live in Delhi, you better don't speak about 1984. <br /><br />Regarding war with Pakistan, it is well known to all who was behind the Kargil war, yet our honorable PM invited Mian Musharraf on red carpet, initiated bus service to Lahore, giving MFN status to Pakistan, why? to give them lessons how to fight a proxy war? or how to make biryani? and if there is proxy war, what made our present PM forget beheading of our soldiers and inviting Pak PM for biryani?<br /><br />Oh sir, you are also wonderful. You keep cursing people for 1984 but justify 2002. You blame for Anderson, but have your explanation for Kandhar. You shout Bofors but don't talk about Tehelka. You also talk either way.Who Caresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-943428413568008472015-01-16T19:53:24.438+05:302015-01-16T19:53:24.438+05:30If you don't think that supporting a massacre ...If you don't think that supporting a massacre by saying 'when a big tree falls, the earth shakes', there is no point in letting you know anything. For the release of terrorists, there was genuine reason. There were more than 150 lives that were in danger. But what was the compulsion for Rajiv Gandhi to help Andreson leave the country? Why should I ask my elders about the massacre of Sikhs planned and executed by the Thappad party leaders, when we were no way related to that? And where is the question of looking or some place to hide? Just for the sake of posting something, don't write anything without any logic or reason. Please read the message properly. It was proxy war I mentioned, but not war. We all know who has served Biryani to Kasab and the minister from Pakistan, that too when that was his personal visit. You are wonderful. One side, you guys say that NDA government to initiate inquiry. But if they do, you blame them that they are being targetted. You could talk either way.Krishnanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-89577924237277097282015-01-15T11:05:23.696+05:302015-01-15T11:05:23.696+05:30Really? I would love to know the names of those LI...Really? I would love to know the names of those LIBERALS who justify 1992 Mumbai blasts. For me, and I deem myself VERY liberal, 1993 Mumbai blasts or 2009 Mumbai attack were acts of terrorism and I support strict action against the conspirators. I also strongly condemn Godhra and you should also condemn post-Godhra. <br />And, if you are justifying an eye for an eye, then what is the difference between those terrorists and you nationalists?Who Caresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-87857162969272069212015-01-15T10:32:00.938+05:302015-01-15T10:32:00.938+05:30Bro, I am little confused. At one point, the apolo...Bro, I am little confused. At one point, the apologists justify that terror acts increased in India post 1992 but at the same time we lesser mortals can't even reason that the riots of Gujarat started post the burning of 59 Kar sevaks? At one point, liberals justify the Mumbai blasts and hundreds killed therein as a response to 1992 demolition but we can't even ask - if so then accept that the 1142 lives lost in Gujarat riots is the response to 59 charred bodies in Savarmati Express. Deal settled, no? Why drag it then? Lets move on...being_cynicalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-72919317811507453502015-01-15T10:25:48.799+05:302015-01-15T10:25:48.799+05:30I am not saying they are Paki origins. But I aske...I am not saying they are Paki origins. But I asked what about people of Indian origin, living in Britain, who support Indian team when they play England. Note these people are British national, born and bred in Britain. Do you say they are traitors, to their country?<br />Regarding Godhra, who gave you right to take action against the suspect even before an enquiry is initiated? Don't you believe the law of the country. This was when the state and central goverment was of your own nationalist party.<br /><br />PLAY victim, after more than 2000 people are killed, right?Who Caresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-14855729290717404262015-01-15T10:21:11.332+05:302015-01-15T10:21:11.332+05:30If we are in war with Pakistan, why did honorable ...If we are in war with Pakistan, why did honorable prime minister invite Pak PM to his oath taking ceremony? To serve him Biryani? And this is not the answer to my question regarding supporting other team.<br />NDA government was in power for six years earlier and now they are in power. Why don't they initiate inquiry against Rajiv Gandhi? Why don't the pseudo-nationalists ask the government to take action against him now? any why blame only him for the Sikh massacare. Ask your elders, if you live in Delhi, if they were also involved in those riots and you may look for some place to hide.<br />By the way, plane hijack and subsequent release of terrorists (in the comfortable company of the then Foreign Minister) and then 2002 riots happened in Mr. Vajpayee's tenure. Should this be enough to debar him from conferring Bharat Ratna?Who Caresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-87721610586500590132015-01-14T19:56:26.587+05:302015-01-14T19:56:26.587+05:30What makes you think / believe that Pakistan was n...What makes you think / believe that Pakistan was not in war with India? They have failed thrice and now, they have been trying hard thru proxy war, by sending terrorists and violating the ceasefire at the border. Beheading of our soldiers at the border and what they have done to some of our soldiers during the Kargil war (by torturing them in many ways) tells a lot about their barbaric nature. Supporting a team from such a rogue nation just because they happened to be a nation following the faith that the youth follow, might not be a problem for you. But any patriotic Indian (irrespective of the faith that he / she follows) would not accept it. Coming to Rajiv Gandhi, where is the question of him getting convicted? Has he ever been questioned by any law enforcing authorities for his open support of the Sikh massacre? It's a well known fact that Rajiv Gandhi, along with Arjun Singh, has helped Anderson to run away from the counrty after the Bhopal gas tragedy. Why can't Rajiv Gandhi be tried for that? The 'sick'ular brigade that jump over each other to point fingers at Modi for what ever that has happened in 2002, were never bothered to question on what what basis a noble soul like Rajiv Gandhi (considering the 2 worst things that have happened in 1984) has been conferred with Bharat Ratna.Krishnanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-60706344836964758062015-01-14T17:55:19.235+05:302015-01-14T17:55:19.235+05:30Are you trying to say J &K students in JNU are...Are you trying to say J &K students in JNU are PAki origins living in India and cheering for their country ??? Who Burned the Train in Godhara , which ignited the Riots ??? U keep on justifying and you will keep on having questions thrown on u ??<br />BC has aptly said , do an act and then play victim .abhinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-37698959188285653542015-01-14T14:45:00.707+05:302015-01-14T14:45:00.707+05:30Hi there,
As I have said earlier also, I am not a...Hi there,<br /><br />As I have said earlier also, I am not as intelligent as you are, but I would like to ask some questions. <br /><br />40 million??? Even Pentagon, NIA, CIA don't give that estimate. How do you come to this conclusion? What is your estimate about Indians in these 40 million? <br /><br />Regarding supporting Pakistan cricket team, I may easily be the biggest supporter of Indian cricket team when it plays Pakistan. There were times when people in my Muslim dominated town celebrated a Pakistan victory, and I literally fighting many of my friends, but time has changed. Probably you have not seen this or maybe you don't trust if I say I support Indian team. When Kashmiri students cheered at Pakistani victory, many of them were expulsed from the college and even charged with sedition. Is it really a sedition? or is it really patriotism to support your cricket team? Many Indian-origin British support Indian cricket team when England play them in England. In fact you feel you are watching a match in Eden Garden rather than Lords. Do you label them traitors? Traitors because they support the rival team? You may argue that England is not in war with India, but Pakistan was also not in war with India when those students cheered its victory. <br /><br />If she considers Mr. Modi of being responsible for killing of Muslims in 2002, don't you consider Rajiv Gandhi and other congress people responsible for killing of Sikhs in 1984. They were never convicted, but even after 30 years you treat them as guilty.<br />Probably you have not read the history of LTTE and their terrorist attacks. There is even a list on wikipedia you can go through. Maybe killing of Sri Lankan president using a 10-year-old boy is not a big deal according to you. And your argument that their activity was limited to Sri Lanka is laughable. <br />Regarding Charlie Hebdo, let me explain to you. It is prohibited in Islam to draw any picture of God or Prophet. It will be equally objectionable to me if you draw Prophet as a king. The question is not about insuling or making fun, but making a picture of him. If you want to discuss about freedom of speech, you can write another post on that and I have my explanations on that.<br />That being said, I agree with you 95% of terrorists are Muslims, but I don't agree that 95% Muslims are terrorists.Who Caresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-6308641616940215152015-01-13T17:18:46.859+05:302015-01-13T17:18:46.859+05:30A great job! Well done.
"Introspection than ...A great job! Well done.<br /><br />"Introspection than accusation might help you see the truth in a better perspective."<br />I feel that's the only thing they wont do beacuse of their unwillingness to have respect and care for others point of views. You may remember the slogan "Islam will rule the world". They are all working towards that goal no matter whether they are educated, intelligent or illiterate.Surendra Singh Sumannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-62359138970599726952015-01-13T11:11:11.387+05:302015-01-13T11:11:11.387+05:30Taslima's article in todays TOI is a good read...Taslima's article in todays TOI is a good read.<br />Couple of observations:<br />There are many terrorist organizations post 1970s. They all kill. The argument made is that small groups can never match militaries of nation-states and anything related to Government are legitimate targets in asymmetric warfare. Naxals for example target mainly government officals.<br />However only Islamic terrorists kill taking the name of God. <br />Also only Islamic terrorists kill innocents "for the fun of it". Hypothetically, even in Charlie is a genuine target, which I don't believe, how one can explain killings in super market. So, really there is no method behind their madness.Satyamevajayatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-6062135194123696352015-01-13T11:06:18.805+05:302015-01-13T11:06:18.805+05:30Ha ha..NiceHa ha..Nicelongrunnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2738809571056614827.post-59058134064914025502015-01-13T10:46:26.274+05:302015-01-13T10:46:26.274+05:30What a post!!! 100/100. A better punch for these p...What a post!!! 100/100. A better punch for these perpetual victimhood mongers couldn't be asked for. For ages, the terrorists would shed innocent blood and then they have these humongous apologists to justify their ghastly act with victimhood. Hope Rana Ayyub reads this and does some much needed introspectionGeetanoreply@blogger.com